Donald Trump, a very strong presidential contender

[Lex]

If Hillary Clinton's time of birth is around 8:00 AM

Where are the natal details of Hillary's ? Everything going around speculations

On a general note, I believe that we will see more females becoming leaders during Jupiter's transit in Kanya rashi.

Like in Judiciary, personal note etc aren't valid for depositions in court, only Evidences are admissible. Hillary natal birth details and analysis.

Similarly in Traditional Astrology, all set by Our Sages, so therefore personal note etc can be brushed aside, unless the analysis backed up with support of over 200 Genethelical charts analysis and documented.

[lordmihira]

thanks for the update Rita on few females becoming leaders when Jupiter transits Virgo
can you name few of them please

[Haresh Kumar]

. Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:44 am
It will be surprising to many, but it is very very likely, that when the elections are held in November 2016, it will coincide with one more
of Trump's major business setbacks.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... antic-city

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... el/494213/

[Lex]

It seems, both the posters, used imaginary birth detail of Hillary and posting in this thread, without checking the veracity of birth details through Duediligence nor through astrological analysis

There is no point in debating with the fraudulent analysis ( without supplying birth details) posters further.

[rita]

It seems, both the posters, used imaginary birth detail of Hillary and posting in this thread, without checking the veracity of birth details through Duediligence nor through astrological analysis

There is no point in debating with the fraudulent analysis ( without supplying birth details) posters further.

Lex,

There is no need for language like "imaginary birth detail" and "fraudulent analysis".

Humility and an open mind are key attributes of a good astrologer and someone who is willing to learn from others.

It is a well known fact that there are two different birth times being circulated for Hillary Clinton - 8:02am and 8:00pm. That is why I said "If Hillary Clinton's time of birth is around 8:00 AM". Note that there is an IF in my statement.

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Clinton,_Hillary

[neelkumar]

Aah..this is an entertaining thread - a respite to me reading the posts in a rather few weeks of stress, disappointments and things falling apart around me.

Well, coming to the topic:

At the moment, Trump and Hillary are running almost at the same levels in terms of their chances for winning the presidential elections.
As a non-astrologer, I think Hillary might just win the race by a narrow margin.
The reason lies in the demographic, lifestyle and psycho-graphic landscape of American voters.
I feel the elite class and some portions of the youngsters will go with Trump but most of the Americans are orthodox when it comes to voting for elections and they will support Clinton vis-a-vis the flamboyance of Trump.

The women votes will be divided and so will the working/aspirational class and the minorities will vote for Clinton.

Personally, I'd like if Trump wins - 'cuz he might just be good for India and also for the entertainment value..but..I guess Hillary Clinton will clinch this one!

Hi Rita, I guess we have some little similarities in our charts but - I really don't trust Jupiter enough to decipher such an interpretation!

Just my two cents!

[Haresh Kumar]

. Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:45 am
Donald Trump has been running Rahu/Mars since end October this year and it will last to
November next year (the month of the elections) . This is the last Antar Dasa and goes by the
name of Dasa Sandhi/ Dasa Chidra. It marks a major transition either up or down.For his
Jyesta nakshatra the junction between Rahu/Mars and Jupt/Jupt has been known to mark the
final phase, a transition like death, retirement or fall from grace.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... -forecast/

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/i ... out-226689

[Haresh Kumar]

. Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:45 am
Saturn enters his Janma nakshatra
Jyeshta at the end of December, it will be in aspect to Moon and Kethu (conjunction) Sun and
Rahu (opposition) (Rahu being the MD lord) and Mars (by aspect) (Mars being the AD lord).
Jupiter will be entering Virgo on 11th August 2016 a transit which has in the past proved
inauspicious as he has suffered two bankruptcies during its earlier two transits(1992 and
2004). The combined influences should see his power and lead declining dramatically in the
coming months.

http://www.electionprojection.com/lates ... linton.php

[Haresh Kumar]

. Friday Feb 26, 2016 10:04 pm

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The latest endorsement Trump has received is from Chris Christie the Governor of New Jersey.
This has introduced a new dynamic as Christie is being viewed as a possible Vice Presidential
candidate.
This is somewhat surprising as Christie was viewed as an establishment candidate before he
bowed out of the race.
Politically it is a plus but at this point of time it is an astrological minus.
We have to study the chart of Chris Christie to see how the wind blows. Chris Christie was
born on 6th September 1962 at Newark NJ.
Christie has his Moon in Scorpio and his Sun in Leo. A 12 noon chart has him in his Sun Dasa.
This is a strong chart with adverse transits and directional influences
Transit Saturn conjoins his natal Moon and aspects his natal Sun. Jupiter by transit moves
into Virgo in August leaving his natal Sun unprotected. These are negative trends.
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Trump is like the 'Titanic' heading for disaster. The date when it will hit the iceberg is open to
question.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/07/us/po ... p-gop.html

[Lex]

[quote="rita
It is a well known fact that there are two different birth times being circulated for Hillary Clinton - 8:02am and 8:00pm. That is why I said "If Hillary Clinton's time of birth is around 8:00 AM". Note that there is an IF in my statement.

[/quote]

It does amuses how astrodata bank been quoted, when itself saying rating is DD, which is a dirty birth details, and her mother quoted saying Hillary born at breakfast time?????? A break fast extends from 0600 hrs 1000 hrs.

It is indeed humility and respect to have, when learning our Sages System , not to manipulate or fudge the birth details, as per one needs and predictions. If one uses a details, it has to be corroborated with birth time , is it correct time through our Sages system, and do analysis, of the life time events to check with Gochara dasa bhukti period.

It does looks to me, in-order to gain mileage, without any analysis through sages system, by posting into this thread.

This contributor after toeing another person's personal statement, after I questioned, it seems doesn't have any answer, nor couldn't able to justify the debate on followings

1... Birth details of Hillary and analysis ...of How birth time is correct???

2. How she can be President through astrological analysis ???/

3. Guru transit over Virgo, Female leaders????? Sages slokas references on this please, or reproduce atleast even 25 female natives who became leaders in Political field

Nonreceipt of feedback on above, we can conclude contributor just speculated with just none of the astrological analysis either through Bhrigu Nadi, Parashara, Jaimini sage system of astrology.

[StellarAstrologer]

Donald Trump: 14th June, 1946 at 10.54am (Jamaica NY) AA Rating chart (BC in hand)
Bottom Line prediction (2016 US Presidential Election): this election is already over. Donald Trump cannot win.

1. 14th June, 1946 at 10.54am (Jamaica NY) AA Rating chart (BC in hand)
2. Simha Lagna. Sun the lagnadhiptati lord in 10th (wants to be in driving seat). 9th lord Mars in lagna, lucky fellow. Poornima birth, moon in Jyesta has excellent paksha bala. Mars aspects 4th. Passionate about homes, real estate. Aslo 12th lord in 4th losses due to real estate.
3. Venus 10 th lord in star of guru (5th and 8th) – likes entertainment business, numerous ups and down, dispute with OPM (Other people’s money)
4. Strong 4th, 8th, 11th (real estate, controversy, gains). 7th lord shani is nakshatra of 8th –numerous relationship breaks, also multiple love life events.
5. Strong 2 and 11th mercury (money planet for simha lagna) in ardra (rich, unlimited money wants)
6. KP astrology: 8th and 9th badhaka planet is Jupiter –dasa starting on October 4th, 2016. Last 8 months (Rahu-Mars from Sep 16, 2015 to October 4th 2016), real aggressive push. Mars and Rahu with Shani. Huge ups and downs. But strong bhukti of mars from Feb 2016 helped him
7. Jupiter dasa starting from October 4th 2016. Main driver as 8th and 5th lord, he will create controversy and breaks many conventions. It is in nakshatra of Mars (4th and 9th lord). Will it give him Presidency?
8. Unlikely, as it is 8th lord of controversy aspects 10th bhava. Nov 8th 2016, election day Jupiter will be nakshatra of 12th lord Moon (Hasta). No victory. If anything it is controversy that is written.
9. Jupiter is weak in dashamsa (D10). His karakamsa is kanya. And he is running Gemini chara dasa from which amatya karaka (moon) is in 6th with ketu. A fight, not coronation.

[maggie12345]

Have you seen Hillary chart? She can't win.

[StellarAstrologer]

It is DD rating birth time. Nobody knows her birth time. It she releases her birth certificate, it would be great.
Name
Clinton, Hillary Gender: F
Birthname Hillary Diane Rodham
born on 26 October 1947 at 08:02 (= 08:02 AM )
Place Chicago, Illinois, 41n51, 87w39
Timezone CST h6w (is standard time)
Data source
Conflicting/unverified
Rodden Rating DD
Collector: Rodden

[StellarAstrologer]

Trump's chart alone is enough to predict that he cannot win.

[maggie12345]

Well established good astrologers are predicting he will win.

[Haresh Kumar]

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Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:14 am
Four of Trump's businesses have declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy of which two took place with Jupiter in Virgo. Trump Plaza Hotel November 2nd 1992- Jupiter 10 degrees Virgo Trump Hotel and Casino Resorts October 21 2004 - Jupiter 11 degrees Virgo.
Therefore Jupiter's 11th house transit will not give succour in his Sade Sati period.
Rahu/Mars Jupt/Jupt, Dasa sandhi period is very bad for this nakshatra. This has been
observed in an overwhelming number of cases.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 01296.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37102763

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... antic-city

[maggie12345]

4 failed but hundred other companies did very well during same time.
One should see his horoscope without political belief or what media is telling and do guess work.

[Haresh Kumar]

It is not so much of the business, as it is of the timing (Jupiter in Virgo). With respect to his business acumen and ethics you don't have to look far.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... es-roundup

http://content.time.com/time/specials/p ... 27,00.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... el/494213/

[Haresh Kumar]

. maggie12345 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:06 am
>>>Trump Plaza Hotel November 2nd 1992- Jupiter 10 degrees Virgo
>>>Trump Hotel and Casino Resorts October 21 2004 - Jupiter 11 degrees Virgo
Trump was not owner of these businesses when they went bankrupt. He sold them to other
entities 4-5 years before bankruptcy

by Haresh Kumar » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:36 pm
Donald Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times. All these bankruptcies were
related to over leveraged casino and hotel properties.
Bankruptcy No. 2 Trump Plaza Hotel - November 1992.
Trump bought Plaza Hotel which overlooks the Central Park in 1988 for approximately $ 390
million. The price tag represented a 1500 per cent increase from what it was when purchased
by the Westin Hotel company 13 years earlier for $ 25 million.
By 1992 the hotels cash flow were insufficient to cover its interest on some $ 550 million in
debt related to purchase and renovations. Trump filed for bankruptcy in November 1992.
and five weeks later the judge approved a plan that called upon Trump to give up 49 %
of his ownership in exchange for forgiveness of overdue interest payments. and a more
lenient repayment plan. The creditors included Citicorp and Industrial Bank of Japan.
As a part of the restructuring plan Trump stayed on as CEO but was not paid a salary and
was denied a role in the day to day operations of the company. Three years after filing for
bankruptcy Trump sold the Plaza for $ 325 million to a group that included a Singapore
businessman Saudi Prince Alawaheed Bin Talal.
Trump remained a minority partner in the hotel but did not get anything from the sale. The
proceeds from the went to reducing the debt from $300 million to $25 million, which was
converted to equity.
In 2012 the Indian Sahara Group paid $ 570 million for a 75% stake in the hotel.
This is considered one of the most substantial blemishes in Trumps investment record. He lost
control of the company and ultimately received very little for his equity stake.
Bankruptcy No. 3 Trump Hotel and Casino Resorts. October 2004
With an interest rate of 15% on some $ 1.8 billion in debt - equating to $ 270 million in annual
interest payments - the company was struggling to stay
afloat. The stock which was trading at $ 2/- in August 2004 had fallen to 50 cents after
announcing the bankruptcy filing. Bond holders agreed to forgive $ 500 million in debt
in exchange for 20 percent of the companies equity reducing Trumps ownership stake from
47% to 27% The creditors also agreed to interest rates to 8%. TCHR was also able to tap into
5 $500 million credit line from Morgan Stanley at 4%.
TCHR emerged from bankruptcy as Trump Entertainment Resorts.
Though the Trump Entertainment Resorts emerged from bankruptcy in 2005, the company never
became profitable and continued to struggle under the weight of a massive debt
burden.
The company raised
cash by selling its Spotlight 29 Casino and Gary property but continued to be on the brink
of financial collapse.
The company still mired in debt paid interest of $ 440 million between May 2005 and Sept
2008, as it consistently reported net losses. The company's financial health deteriorated
further when the crises of 2008. hit, leading to Bankruptcy No,. 4 in 2009 of Trump
Entertainment Resorts.
Trumps four bankruptcy filings have involved three different entities (bankruptcy no 3 and 4
involving the same entity) and approximately $ 4.7
billion in debt.

[Haresh Kumar]

Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:44 pm
The period from 1988 - 1990 was very bad for Trump. This coincides with Saturn's
transit of Sagittarius. It led to the first of two Chapter 11 bankruptcies in 1991 and 1992.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37016680



http://www.businessinsider.com/bloomber ... ion-2016-7

[Lex]

Lots of things happening.... U.S. voters contemplating... can a potential President, lead a powerful country in the world with Health issues..??

[neelkumar]

Lots of things happening.... U.S. voters contemplating... can a potential President, lead a powerful country in the world with Health issues..??

These kind of comments show that the johnny is oblivious and unread of History books/knowledge.
Suggest to read online..or even fetching last week's TOI newspaper - which enlists several past successful US presidents and their health problems.

[Lex]

I had asked my driver to select a K.P.Prashna number between 1 and 249 , on behalf of me, for a query, which arised in my mind, will Hilary Clinton becomes President of U.S.of America, post November 2016?
Number 96 selected.
Hillary Clinton, now-where connected or related to my Driver.
So the appropriate cusp has to be evaluated, as stranger to this Prashna, as her lagna cusp

At that time of selection of K.P.Prashna, today is Monday, Chandra, in the Heaven's map, Udaya lagna was transiting in Dhanur, Guru, and deposited in Purvashada nk and in sub of Rahu, and today Kuja in Dhanur, today Chandra transiting in Mesha, Kuja, in Ashwini nk
( today Rahu represents Budha(vakri), Shukra, Shani, Ravi and Ketu represents Rahu,vakri Budha, Shani)
The divine ruling planets aid me for prognosis are Rahu, Ketu, Shukra, Chandra, Kuja, Guru
Hillary's lagna sputa cusp has to be studied from appropriate cusp of Prashna, which falls in Mesha in Bharani nk and in sub of Kuja, and Kuja in Magham nk

Lets see , is the query tallying with a competition or an election or winning etc?
Shukra is in 7th in nirayana rasi but goes to 6th bhava, and ( Shukra is 7th lord..opposition) and Kuja in 9th in rasi but goes to 8th bhava.. Kuja is her lagna lord
It talks about a contest winning or loosing
Query is tallied with Prashna chart

Lets see Hillary's mind.... Chandrakriya, Chandra avastha, and Chandra vela in Prashna chart. These three parameters are studied in Prashna and in Muhurtha chart to analyze a native's mind, with respect to the query, in natal chart, it gives a different perspective.
Chandrakriya analysis... conveys , she is in right now hiding or in secluded place away from Public
Chandra Avastha analysis conveys... She is in right now facing or undergoing fear
Chandra Velas analysis conveys.... She is in right now, intoxicated , or getting into frame of mind driving her insane.
Lets see her 6th cusp depositions... in Virgo in Hastam nk and in sub of Shani, and Shani is deposited in Vakri Budha
Chandra in 12th bhava in Aswini nk fine tuned by Shani
Shani in 7th bhava... and deposited in vakri Budha
Prima facie, She is loosing to opposition for the President-ship for 2016 election

Lets see during first week Nov 2016,... Budha is getting into vakri state..
No
She will not assume President-ship or She will not be President of U.S. of America, post Nov 2016 Election or Contest or Mandate.

[jemsmiles]

Shilpa Ji,
As eclipse is inauspicious I don't think that Donald trump will be a good leader.
If he wins than definitely it will create lot of chaos and financial problems in the States.
Please share your views.

Thanks and Regards,
Jemsmiles

[StellarAstrologer]

Folks,
I just reviewed senator Tim Kaine's horoscope. He is running mate of Hillary Clinton. His Dob is 26 Feb, 1958, 07.59am, St Paul , Minnesota. It is rated AA. He is pisces ascendant, with moon in rohini (in taurus). He is currently in saturn dasha venus bhukti. Saturn is in 10th and venus is in 11th. Both are really malefic planets for pisces ascedant. But favourable to each other. I predict that he will become the US Vice President after Hillary Clinton wins on November 8, 2016 (tuesday).